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         <title>Deborah Rothman</title>
         <description><![CDATA[<p>The Cassel decision is painful to read.  It should have been a couple of paragraphs, and come out the other way.</p>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:57:22 -0800</pubDate>
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         <title>Vickie Pynchon</title>
         <description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for dropping by Deborah!  And you KNOW how much I like it when you AGREE with me! (Deborah Rothman, ladies and gentlemen, is one of the best arbitrators and mediators in Los Angeles with fifteen years of experience and one of the best analytical minds in the business.  <a href="http://deborahrothman.com" rel="nofollow">http://deborahrothman.com</a></p>]]></description>
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         <title>Timothy R. Hughes</title>
         <description><![CDATA[<p>On the substance ... it seems like a client suing over what he was willing to settle for waives any inherent confidentiality regarding what he said he was willing to take to his lawyer.  I do not know why they dance around the topic - the same theory applies to waiver of attorney client privilege under similar circumstances.</p>

<p>The better part of the post: thanks for the great links for an entertaining Friday afternoon!</p>]]></description>
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         <title>Vickie Pynchon</title>
         <description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for dropping by to comment Tim.  The reason the court is dancing around the waiver issue is because the California Supreme Court has held that you can neither waive nor be estopped from asserting mediation confidentiality under a strict interpretation of the confidentiality statute.  That's a problem to many practitioners here and one the legislature needs to consider since the Supremes keep lateraling the problem to the law makers.</p>]]></description>
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         <title>Marty Gofberg</title>
         <description><![CDATA[<p>Let me add a 4th HUH? In order to have a settlement at a mediation all the parties must sign off on it, short of Cassel proving that Wasserman held a gun to his head to sign the MOU at the conclusion of the mediation, I don't see duress; also it was my understanding (however naive) that ALL communications in the mediation process are confidential, otherwise why would parties avail themselves of the process? </p>

<p>With respect to the Larry King interview, he clearly did not ask for the specifics of the mediation communications but rather as to why she decided to mediate the matter, I don't think the woman has an active or functioning brain cell to have been able to answer the question...she belongs on Fox news for the imbalanced...</p>]]></description>
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         <title>Diane Levin</title>
         <description><![CDATA[<p>Vickie, thanks for such a riveting discussion of mediation confidentiality as you deconstruct this California case. Fascinating stuff!</p>

<p>What particularly struck my ear was the court's view that "For mediation purposes, a client and his attorney operate as a single participant." How curious. </p>

<p>Anyone who has ever observed the terrible struggles that can ensue between a client and his or her lawyer knows that practically speaking this is not the case. This is the mediation-within-the-mediation, often more demanding of the talents and patience of the mediator than the cross-the-table negotiations.</p>

<p>It calls to mind the archaic legal doctrine of coverture, that women gave up their legal identities upon marriage and that husband and wife constituted a single legal entity. </p>

<p>Such a problematic opinion for many reasons - Vickie, I thank you for deconstructing it so ably for your readers.</p>]]></description>
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         <title>Steve Goldberg</title>
         <description><![CDATA[<p>I must confess that I am Victoria's husband before I go any farther. And I, as a civil litigator who also volunteers as a federal court mediator,.</p>

<p>I don't see what all this dust-up is over this decision. It makes perfectly good sense to me. I am curious whether only mediators care about this or if others do as well. </p>

<p>Here is my take: I doubt that any client in the world would think that they were giving up their right to sue their attorney for malpractice for what he or she did during the mediation (however hard such a claim for damages may be to prove). Do you think that any attorney so advises their client of that fact? I doubt it. </p>

<p>Yet that is what the Wimsatt court had held, making up that fluff out of whole cloth. And the California Supreme Court had earlier held that no one could waive or be estopped from the iron-clad rigors of mediation confidentiality - in another context. </p>

<p>The mediation confidentialy statute was designed to keep evidence out of the hands of the parties to the mediation and here the case was apparently settled and completed (to the apparent chagrin of the unhappy client suing his former lawyer).  If that is so, what is there left to protect? Why would any court stretch to find a reason to preclude the client from suing his lawyer? Is there some public policy that would justify precluding a client from suing his lawyer (if there really is a basis for the suit) just because the settlement discussions that led to the supposedly coerced now-completed settlement occured during a mediation rather than just in discussions between the parties? I don't see any reason for it. </p>

<p>On another note, I don't recall the Supreme Court case that said no waiver or estoppel can be allowed for the mediation confidentiality rules. I assume that was not in any context close to this situation and guess without pulling up that case that it dealt with enforcement of settlements. Didn't the supreme court just make up that rule as well by articulating a rule that no waiver or estoppel can exist with respect to these statutes notwithstanding that waiver and estoppel exists with respect to many other statutory rights one has?</p>

<p>While intellectual purity is always better than the converse, I think the discussion should be framed as whether or not any societal harm emanates from this supposed breach in the confidentiality of mediations IN THIS CONTEXT. I don't see any, if if much of the back and forth of participant offers or mediator comments might come into evidence. I doubt that the legislators were seeking to protect mediators or a process that was completed to the later chagrin of one of the parties and don't see any reason why the court should reach out to try to protect alleged lawyer malpractice in this context.  I can envision a different result if the client were trying to unravel or escape from an enforceable executory settlement agreement in which, the adversary party would be harmed if the mediation play came in to evidence.</p>

<p>See, husbands and wives can have differing views on even matters of the law.......</p>]]></description>
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         <title>Joe Markowitz</title>
         <description><![CDATA[<p>I agree that this decision is a bit hard to justify in light of the literal language of the statute, which seems to have a pretty broad definition of mediation confidentiality.  And maybe if it's too broad, the legislature should fix it.  But I also have to agree with Steve above.  If an attorney committed malpractice by giving improper advice in the context of settlement negotiations, and that might be a pretty big if in this case and in a lot of other cases, it seems a bit unfair that the attorney should be able to shield their malpractice by claiming that the advice that constituted malpractice was protected by mediation confidentiality.  My post on this case is here: <br />
<a href="http://www.mediate-la.com/2009/11/carrie-prejean-sex-tape.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.mediate-la.com/2009/11/carrie-prejean-sex-tape.html</a></p>]]></description>
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         <title>Jeff Bean</title>
         <description><![CDATA[<p>Oh, what a tangled web we weave.  So glad that here in Washington we've got the Uniform Mediation Act, which provides an exception to the privilege for mediation communications that are offered to prove malpractice.</p>]]></description>
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